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A Journey Back from Missing Periods & Hashimoto’s

Welcome to Episode 1 of Season 6 of The PCOS Revolution Podcast:

A Journey Back from Missing Periods & Hashimoto’s

Hello again and welcome back to our new season! I hope you’ve been enjoying some sunshine and are ready to kick off an amazing Season 6 with me.

Ever felt unheard at the doctor’s office? You’re not alone. Often times, doctors allot 10-15 minutes to diagnose each patient. And we all know that this is not sufficient. Which is why it’s very important to learn how to navigate the conventional healthcare system to receive the care that you want and deserve.

This week on PCOS Revolution Podcast, I am joined by Adrienne Nolan-Smith, holistic health speaker and wellness expert. In her personal and professional experience, Adrienne has seen how integrative health and wellness are key to preventing and reversing disease. When she was 11, Adrienne was diagnosed with Lyme disease. Her conventional doctor prescribed antibiotics, but they didn’t work and her mother was then told there were no other options.

Two years and multiple integrative therapies later, Adrienne was Lyme-free. Over the years, other health issues came up and each time it became clear that conventional doctors had tools to treat her symptoms, but they never got to the root of the problems, nor did they really try to cure them.

Watch our interview here!



 

About Our Guest:

Adrienne received her BA from Johns Hopkins University, her MBA from the Kellogg School at Northwestern University, and is a board-certified patient advocate (BCPA). She lives in New York City, where she was born and raised. Adrienne gets WellBe with acupuncture, Chinese herbs, and eating (mostly!) clean, real food.

This episode is all about Adrienne’s journey from illness to wellness. She shares some powerful messages one of which is to keep trying, but don’t beat yourself up. Listen and get some insights as you take your journey to wellness.


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Farrar Duro 0:01
Hi, everybody. Welcome back to the PCOS Revolution podcast. I hope you’ve had a wonderful week and I’m very excited to share a special guest today, who actually has her own podcast and we will share that information with you later on the show. Her name is Adrienne Nolan-Smith, and she actually is a health advocate and blogger as well as podcaster. She was diagnosed with Lyme disease when she was 11 and her conventional doctor prescribed antibiotics but they didn’t work and her mother was told there was no other option. So two years and multiple integrative therapies later, Adrienne was Lyme-free. Now over the years, other health issues came up and each time it became clear that conventional doctors had tools to treat her symptoms, but they never got to the root of the problems, nor do they really try to cure them.

In 2010, Adrienne lost her mother to suicide while she was on anti-psychotic and anti-depressant medications to treat schizoaffective disorder. At that point, Adrianne knew she needed to completely switch careers and began working for a healthcare technology company, hoping to fix the system from the inside. After several years working with hospitals, she realized that until wellness is a standard of care, the current chronic disease crisis would only continue to rise. And she also realized that until people demand wellness from their doctors, their brands, their employers, their governments, and ultimately themselves, nothing will change. That’s so true. I wholeheartedly agree. Adrienne founded Wellbe to facilitate this change by helping you get and stay well, and demanding a system that supports you in this endeavor. Adrienne received her BA from Johns Hopkins University, her MBA from the Kellogg School at Northwestern University and is a Board Certified patient advocate. She lives in New York City where she was born and raised and she gets well with acupuncture, Chinese herbs and eating mostly clean real food. Welcome Adrienne to the podcast!

Adrienne Nolan-Smith 2:02
Thank you so much for having me. This is great.

Farrar Duro 2:04
And love your blog, we will definitely link to that. But this is looks like definitely such a wonderful resource for people that are even with PCOS or without PCOS, but just wanting to learn about how to get healthy. You actually have many trainings in there and also your podcast. So I know that this is a podcast for PCOS and we didn’t talk about that in your intro, but you had amenorrhea, which for those of you listening who don’t know it’s basically an absence of your cycle, your menstrual cycle for a prolonged period of time. And so tell me about what happened with that. And also we’ll get into kind of the treatment that you had and that sort of thing, because I know that it can look a lot like PCOS.

Adrienne Nolan-Smith 2:57
Yeah, absolutely. So went to college. As you mentioned, I moved to Baltimore, from New York where I’m from. And about six months after being there, my periods stopped. And it had been normal, you know, coming, probably an average of every 30 days since I was, you know, 12 or 13. And so this was really unusual and strange. And so after about six months, I started to get pretty worried and started to try to research and you mentioned I had this Lyme experience, but since I was about 13, I really hadn’t had many other major health issues. So I hadn’t gone back into this conventional healthcare world where you’re going to all these different kinds of doctors and specialists trying to find answers. So I was reminded about how terrible that process is. But I was going to doctor after doctor, endocrinologists, gynecologists, taking blood tests, doing all that stuff and I was lucky enough because I was at Johns Hopkins to go to some really good Hopkins doctors, but still, it actually wasn’t, you know, providing any answers. And all of them said to me, we don’t see anything particularly wrong with you and your blood work.

Just it’s probably stress, or maybe you lost weight or this or that. And I was like, I didn’t lose any weight. I showed them, you know, I’d steadily gained a little bit of weight having been at college. And, I also, as far as times in my life that I had been really stressed like, college was pretty fun. You know, I was, my parents had been getting divorced and my mom’s mental health had started to decline, but college was kind of a nice escape for me.

So I was able to just kind of put all that aside and make great friends and have fun and so I kind of didn’t believe that that was the answer because I was not feeling particularly stressed and so I kept going and they all told me to take the birth control pill, they just that was like, you know, nothing’s wrong with you, here’s the birth control pill, it was just the standard treatment. And for all of them, I had done enough research to say, look, no, this is a synthetic hormone. Who knows what other side effects is going to happen my body. And also it’s not getting to the root of the problem. I was able to get as a female, my natural period for seven years and now I’m sorry, for six years. And now I’m not so clearly my body is trying to tell me that something is wrong. And I want to figure out what’s wrong and if I take the birth control pill, I not only could create other issues, but I’m going to mask whatever is wrong because I’m going to have this fake period created. And it will continue to get worse until whenever I go off of it.

It could be a full blown who knows, other diagnoses or ovarian cancer, whatever, who knows. And so I said no to all of that actually, finally, one of the doctors, I out of spite, I think I took the birth control pill for two or three months, just to say is don’t get it back naturally. Trust me. They kept saying, Oh, no, you know, yes, you’re right about it’s not going to get to the root cause and it’s, it’s unnatural, but it’ll kickstart your natural one. They kept saying, I said, I don’t believe you, but Okay, I’ll try it. So I think two or three months and then going off of it, sure enough, didn’t get it for several more months. So at I think about a year and a half of not having it, my father was pretty worried and he found me a naturopath because a lot of my Lyme experience had been in the integrative and functional realm. There was no functional medicine realm there.

So the integrative and holistic or whatever you want to call it, medicine world. That was really what got me better. Where all these different therapies that were not antibiotics because it was too late, I think for the antibiotics to work. So my family had grown familiar with this other side of medicine, this other world. So he thought, Well, look, you’ve exhausted all these resources in the conventional healthcare system. All these doctors are saying the exact same thing. They’re hardly doing any work to try to get to the root cause. They’re spending, you know, five or 10 minutes with you. And let’s go to this naturopath. So she was in New York, and I came home for the summer between my sophomore and junior year of college. And she looked at my blood work so differently, it was wild. I mean, we spent 45 minutes to an hour just going through it line by line and understanding how all these different things from micronutrient deficiencies to certain indications of having maybe parasites or fungus…

To my thyroid, which I had never gotten a full thyroid panel and seeing that I had hypothyroidism and all these different things were quite connected and I was also having some GI problems when I was at college which is really funny. I went through a phase I think it was my, I don’t remember exactly when but I was you know, chewing a lot of gum and it all had fake sugar in it and I didn’t really make the connection but I was having a lot of constipation issues a lot of like, smelly gas issues just it was weird to me but you know, I think a lot of girls just kind of deal with this stuff they just kind of manage. I remember the stuff I used to do to be able to go to the bathroom…it was like seven-step process with chlorophyll and this and that and and I began to just think that was normal… that’s what you had to do go to the bathroom and now looking back I’m like, that was insane.

A very normal human process, you shouldn’t have to go to so much work to do it, you know. And so, lo and behold, she showed me how the connection between my thyroid and my gut troubles and I include the parasites and fungus and stuff in there because I studied abroad in China when I was 16. And as anybody knows, who’s ever gone to China, there’s a lot of a lot of issues for Westerners, especially with what we call “China Belly” because there’s a lot of issues with their water. And also just there’s a very different set of bacteria for their microbiome. And so Westerners are like, you know, usually really thrown for a loop with their guts.

Farrar Duro 9:52
That’s putting it nicely!

Adrienne Nolan-Smith 9:55
I’m sure I mean, it was a long time ago. It was maybe 17 years ago, 18 years ago that I was this time that I’m talking about when I went to study abroad there when I was a junior in high school for four months, but I do remember, having quite a bit of stomach things here and there and also then probably taking Cipro which, of course I thought was like candy. Even everything I knew about my Lyme experience and the natural therapies that had helped me nobody really talked about at that time that it wasn’t okay to take antibiotics all the time. Like we never, we didn’t talk about it. And so I always had tons of Cipro on hand for any kind of GI issue in China, and I’m sure that just wreaked havoc, because, you know, sure enough, this whole period issue started about, let’s say a year and a half after I got back, but that’s enough time to kind of let bad bacteria take hold if you’ve wiped out all the good and bad bacteria through all these different courses of antibiotics. So my thyroid, my gut issues both with like, how much fake sugar I was eating, which does a lot of damage to your gut, as well as these parasite, fungus and things I had picked up in China, and wiping out all the good bacteria with my antibiotics…over “antibioticing” myself.

And then couple that with this or rather both of these things really playing into your hormones and your hormones not being balanced. And so what she was able to see was I was really not making or secreting enough testosterone, and you need both estrogen and testosterone to have your menstrual cycle. And so things were just like really out of whack. And so, on one hand I remember being like a little frustrated because there wasn’t a silver bullet like a one thing that was why I lost my period. It was a lot more. It just showed how interconnected all these different systems in my body were, and how it was just a such a delicate balance. And if you messed up one, you know, you mess with your gut, then your hormones spiral. Or if you have this underlying thyroid condition that affects your gut and then your hormones can spiral so I realized how connected everything was. And so we started doing this protocol of Chinese herbs by capsules, a ton of supplements based on the micro-nutrient deficiencies she was seeing in my blood work, and then radically changing my diet.

You know, this was in 2006 is when I started with her, so we didn’t call it gluten-free, but I wasn’t allowed to eat wheat. No sugar because the sugar fed the fungus and no processed foods because, you know, all bad bacteria loves processed foods. And then I think her only she really didn’t stipulate anything regarding dairy or meat intake. And I just remember that one of her other major issues was about raw food. So I had to stop eating raw food out that I didn’t wash myself. So no sushi, I haven’t had sushi since 2006, as far as raw fish, and even you know, I was a college girl. What do college girls do? We eat salads constantly, right? We think we’re going to get fat otherwise, and yet, I had to completely change my diet and I couldn’t eat a salad unless I made it myself. And I couldn’t eat fruit at a restaurant unless I washed it myself.

So it was a huge adjustment and sure I was I was like, “What? This doesn’t make any sense”, but I learned how to do it. And I didn’t get fat, it was fine. Everything was fine with my body and sure enough doing this diet protocol with the Chinese herbs, the supplements and a little bit of acupuncture when I was in New York to see her but that wasn’t that often. She said do this for six months and your period will come back and six months and a day later. It did it was like so right on the time. And I remember what was cool was she was using some Chinese herbs that were meant for fertility and menstrual cycle issues. And we just chose the moon cycle to you know, create a new period because my body forgot when to do it, and it had been so long since the last one. And so it was a full moon.

I thought that was pretty neat. And, yeah, it’s been completely normal ever since. And by normal I mean, it comes, you know, every 28 to 32 days, every month and yeah, that was 13 years ago. So it was a huge eye opener for me both in the on the conventional healthcare side, how few of those very notable doctors that I had to skip waiting list to get into see, really cared at all about finding out the root cause of what might be going on. And how many of them through birth control at me and had I taken their advice and taking it for years. And just assume that, you know, oh, I’m getting this big period. This is good enough. Those thyroid issues, those parasites, fungus issues, gut issues, all of these things would have gotten worse and worse and worse without me intervening and changing my lifestyle and certain way and kind of doing a protocol to kill off the bad and strengthen the good. And I don’t know where I would be now, you know, if I had stayed on a long time or say I stayed off until my you know, mid 30s or something and then wanted to get pregnant and couldn’t, you know, there’s just so many things that could have gone differently had I really listened to them. And so I’m, you know, really glad that you didn’t. But anyway, it was that’s my story with amennorhea.

Farrar Duro 16:28
Yeah, that’s so true. And I think it’s kind of hard because I know that the medical system is not set up to spend as much time with a patient as a naturopath would or an acupuncturist would really reading everything line by line, like you said, they pretty much have five or 10 minutes. And so what can you do in five or 10 minutes? It’s really just write a prescription instead of going in a little deeper. It takes a lot of work. And I think that more and more we’re seeing that there’s been a shift since then, and it’s a similar experience where I had birth control thrown at me, but why do you want to induce a pill bleed? It’s not really even a period. What does it really solve? I think it kind of gets people out the door. And unfortunately, and it’s really up to you to as a woman to actually start to research like you did. And, you know, I think even you had all the greatest, like you said, healthcare facilities and providers, but sometimes it’s just a matter of finding what works for you. And that’s so true…while birth control would have probably suppressed certain things, but also aggravated a lot of other things. As we know, including inflammation. So, where are you now as far as with the Lyme and with you know, the autoimmune issues.

Adrienne Nolan-Smith 17:58
So yeah, so I have not I mean, I think that the more I learned, the more I think that Lyme…first of all, you always test positive for screen or test for Lyme if you’ve ever been exposed to it ever had it. So that’s something that you know, always have. But then when they do the further test, they can see that it’s, you know, no longer active, which is good. But I continue to get tested every year because you know, I still live in New England, and so I’m still exposed to Lyme every summer. And so, it’s just a lot easier to treat, you know, if you antibiotics do generally work for people who find, you know, a tick bite or whatever, if you can actually see the bullseye or whatever, like it’s still in a part of the system where antibiotics could kill it. It’s only when it’s been in there long enough. It’s a brilliant organism, it morphs into different forms, it goes into different systems, and that’s why it’s so hard to treat with antibiotics after you know, a few months so I don’t have acute issues with Lyme but I think Lyme always affects you in some way. Just in the, you know, I have a hypothyroid/Hashimoto’s…goes back and forth type of thing. And it’s really some, I think most medical providers would say it’s just Hashimoto’s, it doesn’t go back and forth.

But the reason I say that is because my antibodies, my thyroid antibodies go up and down and have my whole, like, since I started seeing that naturopath in 2006, she’s always done, you know, one to two thyroid panels a year for me. And each show she has 13 years of data showing that my antibodies have gone from none to 30 to 50 to 200-300. I think the highest I’ve seen it was maybe 380 so it’s never I mean, there are some people that have them in the thousands so I feel very lucky that mine, you know, doesn’t hadn’t gone in that crazy a direction but certainly, you know most providers would say that if you have any thyroid antibodies you have Hashimoto. So in that case I have Hashimoto. But this up and down indicates that my body is able to kind of get a hold of it when I’m take really taking care of my gut and myself and reducing those antibodies and then at certain times in my life where I’m either experiencing great stress or just not taking as good care of myself traveling a lot or whatever it might be those antibodies go up.

So yeah, that’s that’s where I am right now. So not luckily struggling with Lyme anymore. No amennorhea issues but this thyroid issue persists and it’s very connected to how I how I take care of myself both physically, mentally and emotionally because stress and cortisol plays a huge role in thyroid issues, especially Hashimoto’s because of the adrenal fatigue and all of that. So it’s been a real eye opener to me that you can’t supplement and Chinese herb your way into perfect health if you have an autoimmune condition. You really also have to take care of your stress management skills and your internal conversations with yourself I think they have if they’re, if they are creating inflammation and that way, it doesn’t matter if you’re doing everything else right. There’s still inflammation happening in your body.

Farrar Duro 21:41
So it’s self care plays a role in so many things. Over and over we see that the patients that get better faster are the ones that are implementing the self care for sure. And not that it’s perfect and will never be hundred percent but 80/20 is always a good thing, you know, at least and with the thyroid issue coming up I there’s a there’s a article that was written in Scientifica in 2016. And it was about how the prevalence of autoimmune disorders are higher in women with PCOS. And in fact, it was saying that every woman with PCOS should have a thyroid, a full thyroid panel, and like you said, you didn’t have a period and they still didn’t do a complete thyroid panel which blows my mind too because the first thing you think of you have irregular cycles is what else? Check the thyroid first because we don’t do that then we can’t rule that out and if you have thyroid issues, you definitely could have irregular cycles or issues getting pregnant. So both hypo and hyperthyroidism can lead to miscarriages and all kinds of things. So that’s pretty crazy that they didn’t check it and then when you did check it, there it is. You could have a normal TSH and have thyroid antibodies present.

Adrienne Nolan-Smith 23:01
What happened was that the conventional doctors I was seeing didn’t see something up with the TSH and then didn’t check further. Or maybe even, it was such a different time. I’m not sure they even really did TSH. I’m not sure but it was just shocking to me because once this naturopath did my full thyroid panel, TSH was an issue, antibodies were an issue…these all came up and it somehow just totally escaped the medical establishment that I had been you know putting my faith in before that.

Farrar Duro 23:38
And did they recommend any medication for your thyroid once you found that out?

Adrienne Nolan-Smith 23:48
Because my thyroid condition has always been treated by this naturopath rather than a conventional MD, the Nature thyroid and natural thyroid medication was always an option. I think had my thyroid issues been discovered by a conventional MD they might have put tried to put me on Synthroid, a long time ago, but I now know enough about Synthroid. I have filmed a health recovery story for my platform, Wellbe, of a girl who had a misdiagnosed bipolar disorder, and it turned out to be just a toxic drug reaction to Synthroid. So I’m trying my hardest to do everything I can to avoid going on Synthroid and for the time being, the Nature Thyroid has worked, I just have to be quite consistent with it and I take half a grain in the morning and half a grain in the afternoon to try to dose it better. So conventional doctors will say that, oh Synthroid is better because it’s easier to dose because it’s synthetic.

So it’s so specific whereas Armor and Nature Thyroid and some of these other ones, I think WP Thyroid, they’re all derived from pig thyroid. So, the good part of that is that they’re bio-identifiable to the human body, they see it as something that exists in nature rather than a drug which doesn’t exist in nature, because it’s a chemical creation. But the bad part of it is that pig thyroids are slightly different than human thyroid, so when it comes in, it doesn’t always have the exact effect that you could predict with the drug. So hence why I try to take half in the morning, half in the afternoon, just make sure that it’s throughout the day. It’s being absorbed the same way. So, but that’s what I’ve been doing. I would, it’s a dream of mine, and I think it should be completely possible to take no thyroid medication at some point.

Even though my naturopath says, your mom had low thyroid before she died. My father has a low thyroid like my brothers, we all see the same woman so she knows. And I said to her, you know, just a few weeks ago like I’m sorry, I don’t care. I’ve seen people through my work with Wellbe, who have reversed their Hashimoto’s and it’s very hard and takes a lot of work and being very strict with your diet and your lifestyle, but it is possible. And I’d really like to make that happen, even if it’s a few years from now, you know, I think it’s something I should really work towards.

Farrar Duro 26:33
Definitely, it’s possible I know. And we just added a autoimmune protocol meal plan to our PCOS Revolution Academy portal because of this reason. It’s because we kept noticing through our patients too, testing them, that so many women with PCOS were coming back with positive antibodies, and in fact there’s articles about classifying PCOS as an autoimmune condition. So I think that we’re finding out the autoimmune issues are kind of creeping up more and more. And 80% of autoimmune issues are in women and there’s a theory about because of having a placenta, that the placenta actually helped us regulate our immune system. But yet, that was based on the fact that you had six, seven or eight children, so you were pregnant for a long period of time, back in the day, many years ago, and now we don’t have the placenta for that long. So maybe we have, you know, no children, or one or two, you know, three children. There’s not a whole lot of years that we’re actually exposed to our placenta. So I thought that was a very interesting theory as to why it’s mostly predominantly women who have this and I think that the more we learn about the immune system, the more that’s going to come out of this, but we can’t ignore it anymore. And, I think that the work you’re doing is great because we’re going to be unfortunately seeing more and more of this and we need to find better solutions than just band aids.

Adrienne Nolan-Smith 28:06
Yeah, no, I haven’t heard that.I hadn’t heard that theory before. That’s very interesting. I think a lot about why we have so much autoimmunity right now, for my work, as you mentioned, and from the stories that I tell. So many of them are women, and so many of them are autoimmune stories. But I really believe that it’s basically like this toxic burden that’s creeping in on all of our systems, from our food to our air and our water and just confusing our body so much about what is actually a threat and what is not because of this gut health with C sections and lots of issues that mothers are having and carrying babies and then the babies they’re getting them in utero. And then by the time they’re exposed to the world, and they’re seeing GMO peanuts, and this and that, their bodies are reacting in the most bizarre way. And then it’s just a lifetime of these different false threats, as we say.

And it must have quite a bit to do with your hormones, because women are suffering so disproportionately from autoimmune conditions. It’s not like men are not also experiencing pollution in food, and water and air, etc. So why is it affecting women so much? And I think it comes down to this ever-changing hormone situation that we have and how connected hormones are to the gut. So I think it’s, it’s so fascinating, and it’s getting so much worse every day, especially with American women. And so, I think like you said, we should all sort of, I think be telling most girls to be adopting somewhat of an autoimmune protocol, right from just as a safeguard, to make sure that they don’t develop as they go through puberty, these different conditions like PCOS or amennorhea, which, by the way, amennorhea and I think PCOS are both just conditions that are not at all related to the root cause of what causes them, right?

You have a lot of cysts on your ovaries or you aren’t getting your period but neither of them explain why they’re happening. You know, they’re just sort of like restless leg syndrome. But why is your leg restless? You know, or IBS, same thing, what’s irritating your bowel? Which I always think is pretty comical that people just say, “Oh, I have IBS” without ever asking what’s irritating my bowel? That’s not a sufficient answer from a doctor and yet that’s the answer that a lot of us take, you know, just oh, that’s just what I have.

So, a lot of what I try to work on is helping people to understand that you have to keep fighting for the root cause. Until you have it or until you have a pretty good idea of what it can be are working towards healing it, don’t just take whatever’s told to you as the final answer, because it doesn’t explain anything about why it’s happening. And you can reverse things once you know what you’re dealing with, and why. So I think for whether it’s amennorhea or PCOS, even if the answer is complicated, and I had so many different components of what my issues were, at least someone was trying to explain how these different things in my blood work, were actually causing me to not have a period and we could work on those. But I think until you do that, you’re kind of just a little lost.

Farrar Duro 31:56
Sure, and I think what you’re saying is so true, like don’t give up. Do not get frustrated. I know it’s really hard, especially when you’re feeling like you’re losing trust in your own body. But it’s so important to keep going and find the solution somewhere like you did and know that that is totally possible to start reversing a lot of this too. I feel like it’s totally possible otherwise wouldn’t be doing this podcast to reverse PCOS, even though everyone says no, it’s not curable. Well, I’ve been I’ve been in remission 20 years, I have patients who have never seen one single symptom of PCOS come back. I totally believe it’s possible. But I think it does take work, like you said, so nothing comes easy. But the alternative is masking the symptoms and waiting for other things to kind of creep up that are not so pleasant.

Adrienne Nolan-Smith 32:46
That’s what I call it. Just when you mask for long enough, what are you waiting for? The other shoe to drop? In my own experience, we all get tired of fighting, right. And so, there’s going to be lulls in the process where you’re just going through a hard time with something and you know, work or family or whatever, and you’re not able to really attack the problem with rigorous amounts of research and dedication to lifestyle changes and self care and food and all these things that we know are so important or keeping up with your supplements or whatever it is.

But then you just have to get back up on that horse. You know, it’s like, I know when I’m in a little couple of weeks or even couple of months of falling off track, but I know I’m going to get back on that horse. I’m going to keep fighting it. I’m going to you know, right now my goal is to get as I said these thyroid antibodies to zero, but before, you know 13 years ago was definitely to get my regular period back and it’s okay to have that those lulls to see that you’re going through a time when you just can’t focus on it as much as you’d like to and like I said, whether that’s a couple of weeks or a couple of months, but as long as you realize that goal is still important to actually heal and not just manage, I think that’s the most important thing. So just everyone, don’t give up. Keep trying, but don’t beat yourself up. If you have a little bit of a lull where you can’t make it a top priority.

Farrar Duro 34:23
Sure, it’s a marathon, not a sprint.

Adrienne Nolan-Smith 34:30
It’s like Lyme, and then oh, that’s better. I’m all better. And then, you know, five, six years later issues crept up with, you know, hormonal stuff and gut stuff in college, and then I’m fine. And then, you know, my thyroid, kind of progressively kind of getting worse as here I am in my early 30s.

And now having to focus on that so…who knows what my 40’s will bring, but I think it’s just it’s a dedication to listening to your body to not ignoring symptoms to keeping up that diet and lifestyle, which we know is the key to all healing and all prevention and not beating yourself up when certain parts of your life or times in your life you can’t be as good as you always are. So there’s that too I think the negativity as we were talking about earlier inside your head, or just, I read somewhere somebody quoted, “Every single organ in your body hears what you’re saying to yourself in your head. So if that conversation is negative, then you’re creating inflammation all over your body.”

So there’s a lot that we can be doing to reduce inflammation. What we eat, and supplements that we take and healing herbs and self care and lifestyle changes.But if that is still not a healthy positive thing then it’s still going to affect you. So I think that’s something I’ve also learned in my 30’s is it’s not all just physical and when I’m eating I also have to be kind to myself.

Farrar Duro 36:15
Well, you are fabulous and with your work please keep it up…we need you! I really suggest that everybody listening check out Adrienne’s blog and her podcast. Can you tell our listeners how to find you?

Adrienne Nolan-Smith 36:30
Sure. And thank you for those very sweet words. So I my company is called Wellbe but https://getwellbe.com/ is the URL or website and then at Getwellbe on all of our different social channels. And then you can search get wellbee in the podcast app and you can find all the podcasts there. So I’m most active I would say on you know Instagram, Facebook. Our weekly newsletter is really the best place to interact with us. So you can easily sign up for that on the website. And then of course, as I mentioned while the podcast as well.

Farrar Duro 37:12
Very cool, thank you so much Adrienne for being on today. And I hope all of you have enjoyed this as much as I have, and I’ve learned a whole lot. So we will look forward to looking into your blog and your podcast and I’ll see all of you guys next week. Have a great week and take care of yourself!


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  • Meet Adrienne Nolan-Smith as a lyme disease and amenorrhea patient (2:04)
  • Back then, nobody really advised that it wasn’t okay to take antibiotics all the time (9:53)
  • Adrienne’s Journey to Healing: Chinese Herbs, Supplements, Food Restrictions and More! (12:28)
  • Beating Chronic Lyme Disease (17:58) 
  • Women with PCOS are prone to autoimmune diseases. Every woman with PCOS should have a thyroid, a full thyroid panel. (21:41)
  • The Thyroid Gland, Naturopathic vs. Conventional Treatment (23:48)
  • Theory on the Connection of Placenta and Autoimmune Diseases (26:33)
  • If something is not working, keep going and find the solution somewhere. Don’t give up. (31:56)
  • Every single organ in your body hears what you’re saying to yourself in your head. (34:30)

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Farrar Duro here, reproductive acupuncturist at Florida Complete Wellness and founder & host of The PCOS Revolution, a cutting-edge podcast where I interview PCOS experts and cysters who share their pearls of wisdom on how to kick PCOS symptoms to the curb once and for all!

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